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Tuesday, October 03, 2006
Ms. Magazine Publishing Names of Women Who Say They Have Had Abortions
Ms. Magazine has collected the names of over 5000 women who have willingly said and are not ashamed of the fact that they've had abortions. They will be publishing 1,016 of those names in the Fall issue of their magazine...but all the names will be viewable online.
They plan to send the petition to the U.S. Congress, White House and state legislators.
Leaving what you think is right or wrong aside (we must agree that in life everyone is entitled to their own opinion) - pro-lifers often use people who had bad experiences as publicity (please forgive the word "publicity", I don't know what other word to use). This is showing the other side and using the same method that pro-lifers use to get their point across.
And honestly, as long as it's legal (and I'm not saying it should be or shouldn't be), I think a balanced view of the positives and the negatives should be given. Unfortunately, nobody is providing that view, including Ms.
I thought it was interesting and surprised that a non-political magazine (as far I understand - I don't read Ms.) would take such a strong political stand.
Well, the very term 'Ms' is political - feministly political anyways.
Feminism is built largely on the issue of abortion. In their effort to make women worth more (in comparison to men) - they went too far and made women worth more than babies.
I believe every situation has to be looked at individually. The problem with passing a law that outlaws abortions would mean that we would revert back to women having illegal abortions, which would cause other problems.
I also do not condone the violence that is some times displayed by some pro lifers... I know the believe is that abortion is killing a child but violence is not the way to resolve the issue.
I personally would not be able to have an abortion, but I respect another woman's choice and each case is is different and there is no one law that could encompass all the different circumstances.
I did my work experience during college at a hospital and saw several babies being born to heroine and crack addiction... these babies stand no chance of a normal life and have to be given methadone from the day they're born. In an ideal world the mothers wouldnt' take drugs, but we dont' live in an ideal world.
"Feminism is built largely on the issue of abortion. In their effort to make women worth more (in comparison to men) - they went too far and made women worth more than babies. Kelly"
I too am very pro-life, but I know a number of people who didn't make the decision I made when I became pg with my oldest before DH and I were married (and while I was attending a DI college on an athletic scholarship). But I don't think any less of them. I konw it's a tough decision either way and I'd rather see people STOP putting themselves in that position to have to make a "tough decision."
People say "it was the hardest decision of my life" or "I'm not ashamed of my choice" as if to validate the decision they made to themselves. You know what? I don't have a problem with people being unashamed. You make choices in your life and whether make the best choice or not it's not something to be ashamed of either way. So I don't see the impact of people signing a petition to say they aren't ashamed of the decision they made. I wouldn't want them to be ashamed of something their whole life even if I don't necessarily agree with them.
Like I said, I know a number of people that didn't make the choice I made, and my heart hurt for them to have to make their decision. I wished they didn't need to go through it, but in those cases, it was a direct result of a choice they made. No matter what they say, I know they'll have to live with that choice for the rest of their life.
Then the woman who said she finished school and was the first to graduate from college and she didn't want anything to stop her? I'm sorry, but she could have still done all of that without tossing her child aside.
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6 Comments:
What is the point to that? That doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm HIGHLY pro-life so you don't want to get me started on this.
LOL
*Nell quietly walks away from this conversation before she gets heated*
Leaving what you think is right or wrong aside (we must agree that in life everyone is entitled to their own opinion) - pro-lifers often use people who had bad experiences as publicity (please forgive the word "publicity", I don't know what other word to use). This is showing the other side and using the same method that pro-lifers use to get their point across.
And honestly, as long as it's legal (and I'm not saying it should be or shouldn't be), I think a balanced view of the positives and the negatives should be given. Unfortunately, nobody is providing that view, including Ms.
I thought it was interesting and surprised that a non-political magazine (as far I understand - I don't read Ms.) would take such a strong political stand.
Well, the very term 'Ms' is political - feministly political anyways.
Feminism is built largely on the issue of abortion. In their effort to make women worth more (in comparison to men) - they went too far and made women worth more than babies.
That's quite a risky stand for them to take.
I believe every situation has to be looked at individually. The problem with passing a law that outlaws abortions would mean that we would revert back to women having illegal abortions, which would cause other problems.
I also do not condone the violence that is some times displayed by some pro lifers... I know the believe is that abortion is killing a child but violence is not the way to resolve the issue.
I personally would not be able to have an abortion, but I respect another woman's choice and each case is is different and there is no one law that could encompass all the different circumstances.
I did my work experience during college at a hospital and saw several babies being born to heroine and crack addiction... these babies stand no chance of a normal life and have to be given methadone from the day they're born. In an ideal world the mothers wouldnt' take drugs, but we dont' live in an ideal world.
I know going off topic here... sorry
"Feminism is built largely on the issue of abortion. In their effort to make women worth more (in comparison to men) - they went too far and made women worth more than babies. Kelly"
You took the words right out of my mouth.
I too am very pro-life, but I know a number of people who didn't make the decision I made when I became pg with my oldest before DH and I were married (and while I was attending a DI college on an athletic scholarship). But I don't think any less of them. I konw it's a tough decision either way and I'd rather see people STOP putting themselves in that position to have to make a "tough decision."
People say "it was the hardest decision of my life" or "I'm not ashamed of my choice" as if to validate the decision they made to themselves. You know what? I don't have a problem with people being unashamed. You make choices in your life and whether make the best choice or not it's not something to be ashamed of either way. So I don't see the impact of people signing a petition to say they aren't ashamed of the decision they made. I wouldn't want them to be ashamed of something their whole life even if I don't necessarily agree with them.
Like I said, I know a number of people that didn't make the choice I made, and my heart hurt for them to have to make their decision. I wished they didn't need to go through it, but in those cases, it was a direct result of a choice they made. No matter what they say, I know they'll have to live with that choice for the rest of their life.
Then the woman who said she finished school and was the first to graduate from college and she didn't want anything to stop her? I'm sorry, but she could have still done all of that without tossing her child aside.
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